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to remember, forget about the fiscal cliff, what is driving the stock market and keeping us where we are right now? a lot of it is consumer discretionary spending not because of christmas but because gasoline prices have dropped 17%. take advantage of all time low rates giving us a push hold in the market up right now and a lot of people are not talking about that right now. lori: do you think that is enough to prevent the s&p futures from hitting the 1400 level support here in the next couple of weeks? many people would argue more headwinds than tailwinds right now. >larry: we are angry mules kick away from 1400. people are just perplexed, why is the market holding up like it is with all the bad stuff around us. consumer discretionary spending has helped giving us a tailwind. blowing through it in a heartbeat. lori: great to have you, merry christmas. david: teetering on the edge of the cliff. speaking of the fiscal cliff, talks on hold until after christmas and president obama and house speaker john boehner have not spoken since friday. lori: is there any hope for a deal? are you the last ma
the markets overall going up. but right now make no mistake about it, the fiscal cliff doubts in getting to january 1 without some kind of even a patchwork deal is what's driving the markets right now in negative territory. >> as we know, it's not a cliff, it's really a slope or series of steps as you're falling down them should a deal not come to pass here. is the drop that we've seen so far after plan b's failure, will we see yet more of the market reacting, a slow degradation of market performance? >> that depends on essentially if, for instance, a week from monday right now we're sitting here and it's almost a certainty that we're going to go over the cliff. i would argue that we could get more back to a cliff rather than slope analogy because it comes down to how swiftly does the market react in a negative way and how swiftly is the fallout on the overall u.s. economy. for example, we're getting reports from around the country that, number one, retailers have lowered their forecast on what the christmas shopping season is going to look like. we're hearing that one of our reporters w
's all because of the worries about the fiscal cliff. suzanne. >> all right. let's just listen in, and i'll bring you back for a bit. ♪ >> all right. there you go. allison, i want to bring you back for a couple quick questions here. we know the stocks are down, fiscal cliff. talk about what we think that means for us if we end up going over the fiscal cliff and you're looking at a lot of tax hikes as well as spending cuts. >> yeah. you have to believe if we go over the cliff that some sort of deal will happen up. if not within the first couple days of year, maybe the first couple weeks. what may happen is an impact right away to your paychecks in the early weeks of the new year. here is an idea of what we're in for anyway. we're going to see a lot of tax changes. payroll tax holiday. that would expire, and that means that the amount taken out of your paycheck would go from 4.2% to 6.2%, so that means if you're making $50,000 a year, it means $83 a month comes out of your paycheck. over the cliff it means you have a delay in tax refunds for the 2012 returns and that's because there's ye
comforts that town right now. also this morning, a rather dire prediction about the fiscal cliff and what might happen when lawmakers return later this week. it's a pocketbook issue for all of us. >> some people are expecting to maybe go right over that cliff. >> more likely than a couple days ago. >>> and later this half hour, the christmas edition of our insomniac play list. your favorites performed with an updated beat. putting a new spin on some of the old christmas classics. >> good to see ceelo hanging out with the muppets there. >>> topping our news right now, the nra is not backing down from its call to place armed officers in the nation schools. >> congressman chris murphy whose district includes newtown calls it tone deaf and also revolting. >> reporter: from the brooklyn bridge in new york to the sidewalks of falls church, virginia, anti-gun protests are springing up around the country. the debate on gun control has also triggered a run on gun shows and gun stores. sales are soaring as people rush to buy assault weapons before a possible ban. >> we're completely out of the so-c
, millions looking for work and what's the fiscal cliff mean for them? >> reporter: okay. we have unemployment at 7.7% last month and mainly went down because people gave up looking for work and jdropped out of th job market and out of work six months or longer. 4.8 million americans, they're the folks worried the most about unemployment benefits not extended after the first of the year. >> as we look at that number, that's staggering for so many. we have a "the washington post" poll that indicates 74% of americans support raising taxes on the top earners in this country. with that support there, the presidential mandate of re-election and the fact he ran on raising taxes if he was given a second term, why is there such this stalemate and trepidation in washington, d.c. to get a deal done? >> reporter: how many hours do we have? let me try it this way. there's a group of hard core tea party republicans but democrats say we won because as your poll shows most americans support the president's position on higher taxes on top earners and seemingly at this point about leverage rather
-- >> that is another piece of legislation up in the air. >> right. and it is all caught up in the fiscal cliff story. >> unbelievable. from a business standpoint bb you have to operate your business regardless of what is going on and the fact we have this uncertainty. there is talk ever further consolidation. is that good for travellers or better to get more capacity out of the air? >> i think that more consolidation is good. it'll start to strip out some of the unnecessary capacity. from an industry perspective, what we are looking for is elected leaders and others to understand the importance of air travel. airlines drive flight percentage gdp. we are talking about a policy in 2013. something about rationalization with taxation. you talk about investment and infrastructure. my gosh, infrastructure in the united states on the ground and in the air. by the way, you talk about also being more globally competitive. this is what a national airline policy is all about. regardless of consolidation, that's what we think makes a great deal of sense for 2013. >> when we were in commercial break, i said, wow
of these fiscal cliff worries. >> we're going to sort of trend right around here -- it doesn't look like we're going to get a deal before year end of any great significance. that being said, we may get one last year. do we trade in line right here? >> so we're going to trade probably 91 on the upside, 86 on the low side. i think once a deal is done, you're going to see a reemergence of a risk-on rally. i think that's where crude oil breaks out to the upside. we start to get an upward trend. opec's 2013 target is around $100. i think we'll move up into the mid-90s and probably press through that $100. one of the burdens we have is we do have an abundance of supply in the u.s. the u.s. won't export any crude oil, but i think the possibility of us starting to consume more, would drive and help support those higher prices. >> when you put on those longs, i'm wondering, because this week is a holiday shortened week. congress is coming back on the 27th. is this a trade for 2013? >> yeah, it is more of a trade for 2013. i wiould start to look at fartherer out contracts, to like december 2013, and
the fiscal cliff will be resolved and they rise above. what's the best way to play a fabulous bull market that some think could be unleashed? simple. assuming that everything goes right, the best proxy for the market in 2013 is the blackstone group. the big publicly traded asset firm. why blackstone? a company that i wasn't keen on. the company earns money investing other people's money. private equity funds. at the moment the company has $205 billion in assets under management. that's the difference between where the congress is it's so much. it's as good as it gets. everyone says that. when you see someone who in the business work at blackstone. they are a smart guy. that's the way it is. right now in this not so hot environment all of blackstone products are beating benchmarks. that matters. it's the end of the year. the business is good. in the last two years the company managed to raise 72 billion of new money from investors and greater assets under management, the more money blackstone makes from performance fees. this is how they're doing in an okay but somewhat troubled environmen
a sound bite about the fiscal cliff. gerri: we agree to disagree, am i right? >> would definitely agree torand disagree. gerri: thank you for coming on. when we come back, the results of the study showing waste, fraud and abuse in the nation's skies. and ibm getting flack from making major changes to the retirement program that what cost to employees? could your employer play fast one on you too? i will dissect it all next. ♪ music body language-- without saying a word, it can tell you so much. like someone is having a stroke... know the sudden signs. learn f.a.s.t. f- face drooping a-arm weakness s- speech difficulty t- time, time to call 911 immediately. the sooner they get to the hospital, the sooner they'll get treatment, and that can make a remarkable difference in their recovery. learn the body language, the sudden signs, and spot a stroke f.a.s.t. ♪ gerri: there is th sto gerri: there is a story there is not getting a lot of attention today that you need to hear about, particularly if you care about your retirement. ibm overhauling its retirement program. instead of contribut
in congress can agree on is to get a sound bite about the fiscal cliff. gerri: we agree to disagree, am i right? >> would definitely agree torand disagree. gerri: thank you for coming on. when we come back, the results of the study showing waste, fraud and abuse in the nation's skies. and ibm getting flack from making major changes to the retirement program thawhat cost to employees? could your employer play fast could your employer play fast one on you too? when some people struggle with their mortgage payments, they become frozen, petrified. not knowing what to do, they do nothing, but the people who do something, the people who take action, are far more likely to get the most positive outcome. making home affordable is a free government program. call now to talk one on one with a housing expert about the options that are right for you. real help, real answers right now. announcer: it's timothy green's first day at school. what's in there? he's about to fall over. just anything he might need. there's a box of tissues on the bottom and some band-aids; there's a whole first-aid kit, actua
inflation. >> right. >> and the fiscal cliff business is a big deal. it's a potentially big game changer. i didn't think there was a chance we would go over really until the last couple of days. now i'm thinking there could be a bungee jump where you go over for a couple days and come back. >> if you're a market timer and you believe in your bungee do you think there's going to be an opportunity? >> absolutely. because i truly believe. the good news is, is this is setting ourselves up for true entitlement and tax reform in 2013. it could be six months from now. it could be a very difficult first six months. >> you're looking for a baby deal now? >> there's probably going to have to be a baby deal, partly because of amt. you cannot retro actively fix amt. that would hit millions of people. it's a very, very big deal. very, very costly. everyone would get blamed for it. then there's another things that are part of the deal that you could wait for. payroll tax, that's $160 million. we have obama care taxes. we know those are going through. >> the payroll tax number going up again? >> payroll t
right now. i think one of the reasons the markets is down in futures trading is concern about the fiscal cliff. what happens after the 1st of january to the markets if we go over the fiscal cliff? >> well, you know, it's -- you're going to see a sell off because it's going to be a hit on earnings. you always have to look at the news stories and does that affect forecasted earnings or interest rates? and this does all of that so this will be a negative on the stock market. forecasts are anywhere from a 10 to 15% drop in the stock market based on earnings expectations and hit to earnings. this will be devastating to the economy, to the stock market and it needs to be, it doesn't look like it's going to happen, david. it looks like we're going to get a little bit of extension it it of the tax, the bush tax credits or the bush tax cuts and see unemployment benefits, you know, extended for about 2 million people. and as a result, we're going to see a lot of discussion and little results except higher taxes, that's for sure. >> and one thing that surprised me, we know that taxes will remain th
the fiscal cliff. you say we will trade at. >> i've seen the financial stocks, which are a very important indicator of the market. they have been very strong, and living today. we have seen some nice follow-through from companies like goldman that finally have been able to get above key technical levels. also there is no recall when addressing. the window dressing is the group , loss on wall street among the money managers say let's get that market really strong for the end of the year. we want to see nice numbers, and gerri: you guys do nothing and fundamentals anymore. it's amazing to me. >> you're right, and that is part of the problem with the street, but those two are bottom-up fundamental analysts, we really like the guidance that we saw that came out of it. many of these industrial multi complex companies that are very importaat indicators. gerri: like it when you talk but companies like those, because those are real companies. illinois tool works, fundamental company manufacturing, doing all the right stuff. i want to get you, though, to an interesting list that came out in fortun
go over the fiscal cliff. where both sides are right now. you used the oven? boom ♪ [ male announcer ] pillsbury crescents. let the making begin. here's a better idea. pillsbury grands! flaky layers biscuits in just 15 minutes the light delicate layers add a layer of warmth to your next dinner. pillsbury grands biscuits let the making begin. >>> good morning. a frigid start. 30s and 40s outside our door. giving you a beautiful spot of union square. a great day too ice skate and maybe do some shopping. >>> at least two firefighters have been shot while responding to a house fire in new york. it happened shortly before 6:00 eastern time near lake ontario. firefighters were shot as they arrived at the scene. one is said to be in satisfactory condition. >> the other's condition is unknown at this hour. firefighters are not fighting the fire right now because they are waiting for police to finish evacuating the area as they search for a shooter. the fire has now spread to other homes. >>> the bickering continues a week away from the fiscal cliff. talks to try to prevent automati
cliff and if congress doesn't act soon the the u.s. economy could take a nosedive right off it. all this have comes as capitol hill, could a value-added tax be in the pipeline? are we slowly turning to europe. david, good to see you. and we already see us moving in terms of spending to the european model. will we move in terms of tax policy to the european model, specifically to a value-added tax like they have in most of europe? >> personally i think we should. >> on top of what we have, on top of an income tax. >> we need to cut back and what i would cut back is replacement for the medicare tax, but also, corporate tax rates should be part of the deal, too. >> what frightened milton friedman the value added tax. there's no way it would replace it, it would always be tacked on top of other tacks and look at the history and that tends to be the way we go. >> although when the europeans brought it in they did cut the other taxes. >> that didn't last long and we've seen them come up recently. >> and it's going to continue because they've got budget problems. david: now the problem tha
republicans. and this is problematic obviously because in order to avoid the fiscal cliff, you would need to find some sort of deal that would make it through the senate and the house and that would need democratic and republican support. now, all eyes on the senate because they will reconvene on the 27th, thursday. and senate majority leader harry reid, it is up to him, really, to cobble together something that can get some of that support. right now the white house is still supporting a threshold of $250,000 back to their initial starting point for tax rates going up for those making more than that. but you can imagine, hala, that's going to be very hard for some republicans, maybe even some democrats to sign on to. >> right. and for just about a week ago, it was common to hear a deal will be hammered out. over the last several days we're hearing more and more that potentially this is a reality for americans in eight days' time. your sources in the administration, is there a real concern among some of the people you're speaking with that indeed this fiscal cliff will become a reality? >
to the fiscal cliff with our panel but first, very quickly, touch on the nra which proposed armed guards, armed policemen, at public schools to provide safety. i thought it was a straightforward, common sense idea. don't you agree with it? >> i do not, lou. i do not. did not help people at columbine. people serving as guards at school not qualified to carry weapons. the expense of it. we have 100,000 schools, say, add up $50,000 per guard. we'll get a billion dollar price tag. when we're cutting back on everything, i don't think this will protect our children. >> i think nra should have said, we should allow one person at the school to have a concealed carry permit, if they choose and if they choose to carry a gun, allow them to do that. right now the gun-free zones a ludicrous. lou, every mass murder in the united states since 1950, with one exception has taken place in a gun-free zone. that didn't work. lou: steven, your thoughts. we'll turn to one of your favorite topics. >> you know what is interesting is john fund had a very good piece putting in contest the recent history of gun violence
no deal on the fiscal cliff. why one top democrat thinks we'll careen right off the edge. >>> nobodies show egyptians approve a constitution, the fight is not over yet. why the leading opposition plans to fight it. >>> a winter storm, heading east. it could wreak havoc for lots of travelers today. now we know what you need. >> good morning, everybody. welcome to "early start." chilly in new york city this morning. i'm alina cho. >> i'm dana bash in washington, d.c. it is 30 minutes past the hour. the latest on a developing story from kabul. the capital city in afghanistan, another apparent green on blue killing. an american contractor serving as advisor to the afghan police, shot and killed. this happened this morning, by a woman wearing an afghan police uniform. there have been dozens of attacks this year invol. this is the first by a woman. so far, the victim's name is withheld. >>> this wasn't on our christmas list, but it's starting to look like all of our stockings will be stuffed with a tax hike and spending cuts. crunch time. just eight days until america goes off the fiscal cli
to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. dagen: with the president and congress on a christmas break, will they miss their year end deadline? peter barnes? peter: just got a note from one of the speaker's spokes people he said the speaker and the president have not spoken since that phone call on friday. all eyes are now on the senate when it returns on thursday to try to get a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. this past friday before the president left for his family vacation in hawaii, he proposed a limited measure to avoid all of the cliff when speaker boehner scuttled his plan b, the president wants to extend the bush tax cuts now for the middle class and try to avoid some of these deep spending cuts on january 1st. a white house spokesperson says today that staff discussions continue between the administration and the hill. in july you may recall the senate democrats passed an extension of the middle class tax cuts if r a year at a -- for a year at a cost of 157 billion. that bill also patched the alternative minimum tax for 2012 for 92 billion, but it went nowhere after that. sen
no deal preventing the economy from going over that now infam mouse fiscal cliff. members of congress are still pointing firngs over who is to blame for the lack of progress. meanwhile, connecticut's independent senator, joe lieberman expects congress to work right up until the new year's eve deadline. he's not sure that will be enough. >> it's first time i'm more likely that we'll go over the cliff than not. if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time. >> the president and congress are on short holiday breaks. they're due back later in the week. one possibility in all of this mess is a partial deal on taxes while putting off agreement on spending until some time down the road. >>> former president george h.w. bush may be spending thanksgiving in the hospital. he's been there since thanksgiving. he's battling bronchitis and a lingering cough. >>> south africans are sending warm wishes to former president nelson mandela. he's been in the hospital f two weeks with a lung infection. he's said to be in no immi
're not that confident any more. and i think something has -- this fiscal cliff has something to do about it. but people are scared in the u.s. right now. you increase their taxes, increase their savings, i'm not saying it's a bad thing for them, but it's a bad thing for the economy. >> so you're saying this has caught on now. it was a while before consumers didn't get the fiscal cliff idea. we are getting closer to the worst case scenario and you're saying it's timely caught on with main street. >> we're talking about money. money is is 00% emotional. put those two together and all of a sudden people get protective. as a result, they will begin to save and not spend. we need people to spend money. we need people to buy things .right now, the responsibility thing for the americans to do is not to do that until this gets resolved. >> ralph, you're with us for the full hour. fantastic. find us on twitter if you want to get in touch with karen or myself. up next, we speak to the man who says he can save italy's economy from mistakes which have been made across europe. >> europe has taken a stiffer route. t
the fiscal cliff talks. >> let's hope they can figure it out in the next week. >> you can get more on melissa's segments on csf.com/morning. >>> time for a look at who's coming up a little later on this morning. >>> rebecca jar visit joins us live on christmas eve. good morning. >> good morning, frank and elizabeth. coming up ahead on our show on cbs this morning, the controversial call for armed guards at the school. we'll talk with asa hutch chin son about the gun control debate. plus john miller on the accuracy of "zero dark thirty," and christmas cheer for 2,000 people who just hit the jackpot in the world's richest lottery, $3.3 billion. >> happy holidays. >>> time is 6:52. have another check of today's top stories coming right up. >>> a live look at minor rad as he tracks santa's sleigh when he comes back. stay right there. ,, ,, ,,,, jack! what happened? me and jason came back with drinks and all 20 nuggets were gone. we got nugged. there was a nugging. this guy just came running up... dip! dip! dip! shoveling 'em into his face! give me your nuggets- -we're like "no! save some for our
it comes to the fiscal cliff. there are no major discussions going on right now about what to do now that talks between the president and the speaker appear to have stalled. in fact, the president and senate majority leader harry reid were both here in honolulu yesterday for the funeral of hawaii senator daniel inouye. we're told they didn't really discuss what to do next. before he left washington the president urged leaders to craft a sort of scaled down plan that simply extends the bush tax rates for the middle class and extends long-term unemployment benefits for another year. but, jeff and rebecca, it's really unclear whether even a package like that could pass both houses of congress. so the president is going to be cutting his vacation short and heading back to washington midweek to work with congressional leaders. at that point, as you know very little time left to get a deal only about five days. >> the pressure will be on. no do-overs for this one. nancy, i want to turn to michael crapo and his dui. what kind of details are emerging on that? >> reporter:
with revenues are risking the fiscal cliff and make no mistake about it. if we go over, god forbid and i still don't think we have to, the american people are going to blame the republican party and they'll come right back and pass something. so i don't think the middle class is at risk. if we go over the cliff, our reamian colleagues will come back and go uh-oh and pass the bill we passed in senate already. >> can chuck hagel become secretary of defense if he's the president's nominee? >> a lot of republicans have asked hard questions. i don't think he's going to get many republicans votes. i like chuck but his positions are really out of the mainstream and well to the left of the president. i think it would be a challenging nominations but the hearings will matter. chuck will have a chance to defend himself. >> will you support him? >> i'm going to wait and see what happens in the hearings. i've got questions with chuck and iran, hamas and hezbollah, his position toward israel, just afghanistan. i want to hear what he has to say. but very troubling comments by a future secretary of defense.
-out when it comes to the fiscal cliff. there are no major discussions going on right now about what to do now that talks between the president and the speaker have appeared to have stalled. they were both here yesterday for the funeral of daniel inu way and & we're told they didn't know what to do next. the president urged leaders to craft a sort of scaled down plan that simply extends the bush tax rates for the middle class and extends long-term unemployment benefits for another year. but jeff and rebecca, it's really unclear whether even a package like that could pass both houses of congress, and so the president is going to be cutting his vacation here short. he's heading back to washington midweek to work with congressional leaders. but at that point, as you know, there's going to be little time left. >> the pressure will be on and no do-overs for this. i want to turn to michael crapo and his dui. what kind of deals are being worked out? >> he's 61 years old. we're told on sunday morning he was driving outside alexandria. he ran a red light, was given a sobriety test and failed. he wa
the fiscal cliff. no official talks are scheduled and lawmakers have left d.c. for the holiday break. president obama is in hawaii but may return early to resume negotiations. taxes for all americans will go up if a deal is not reached by january 1st. the main sticking points are tax hikes and spending cuts. >>> we are learning more about the dui arrest of a u.s. senator. mike crawl crapo was pulled over in alexandria. an officer said he saw him run a red light. police say he registered a blood alcohol level of .11. the legal limit in virginia is .08. the senator was released on bond about four hours later. the senator released a statement sunday saying i am deeply sorry. i made a mistake for which i apologize to my family, my idaho constituents and any others who have put their trust in me. he is due in court january 4th. >>> heading home for the holidays. nasty weather out west makes the journey longer for some people. we will take a look at mother nature. ♪ because we know how much you do to make the holidays just right. from ornaments to ottomans, memories are made with ikea. >
of this country, not about the welfare of a political party. gregg: all right. brad, the fiscal cliff is one of the reasons why people are so incredibly gloomy about the future, and, you know, dick's making the point here when speaker john boehner can't even get his own party to follow him and put up a vote on his plan, i mean, aren't republicans equally to blame for the public's profound pessimism? >> well, we have a divided nation, that is for sure. this president has not done his job in leading, and had he done his job in leading especially in the fiscal cliff, he wouldn't be in hawaii now, he'd be in washington making sure that we had a deal -- gregg: has boehner done his job? >> boehner has done a great job in trying to lead republicans to a solution. gregg: seriously? >> absolutely. gregg: he can't even get a vote on his own plan, come on. >> here's the problem, gregg, is we have a president who basically says it's his way or the highway, and republicans are saying, no, we will raise revenue, but we won't do it at the expense of spending. our problem is a president who loves to spend m
this prickly issue, another stalemate and fiscal cliff negotiation. >> our republican colleagues by refusing to go along with revenues are risking the fiscal cliff. >> i think we're going to fall out of the fiscal tree. there will not be a big deal. >> reporter: confidence in any progress now at a minimum. lawmakers return from their holiday recess on thursday, and when they do, they will have their work cut out for them. reporting live in washington, i'm danielle leigh. veronica, back to you. >>> thank you so much. >>> the pentagon says the commanding officer of s.e.a.l. team 4 has died in afghanistan. 42-year-old joe w. price died saturday of what u.s. military officials are calling a noncombat injury. they tell nbc news his death is being investigated as a possible suicide. s.e.a.l. team 4 was part of a mission to train local afghan police to combat the taliban. >>> in the meantime in what is being called a possible insider attack, a civilian advisor was shot this morning by a woman wearing an afghan police uniform at kabul police headquarters. at least 53 international troops have been k
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ready to do a thelma and louise and plunge over the fiscal cliff? some lawmakers sounded gloomy about any chances for a compromise deal. >> passing pln b would not have changed the outcome. we would have gone over the cliff before, we will go over the cliff now because it's what the president wants. you can't negotiate with someone who does not want to negotiate. >> in the aftermath of the house republicans rejecting speaker boehner aers so-called plan "b," it's the first time i feel like we will more likely go over the cliff than not, and if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time, maybe ever in american history. >> nine days remain to get a deal done. lawmakers are home for the holidays. house speaker boehner is in ohio. president obama as reported is in his native hawaii. before leaving washington, president obama urged congress to pass a mini plan that would preserve middle class tax rates. brianna keilar joins us live from hawaii. what do we think will happen as the holiday week rolls out? >> reporte
the fiscal cliff negotiations. the first one, most importantly, he is missing his dance partner joe biden. he has been kept on the sidelines during negotiations. some republicans think his absence is a sign that the president is not serious about closing a deal. mitch mcconnell is no longer the top republican in washington. it is easy to forget that when he struck a deal to extend the bush tax cuts, boehner had won the house a month before but was not wielding the gavel. finally, mitch mcconnell has stayed on offense. on the senate floor on friday he argued the democrats poisoned the well by declaring boehner's plan b dead on arrival. >> and he is up for reelection in 2014. by all polling, it looks like it will be a lot tougher. he also has a colleague in rand paul, who is a tea partier. you put all those factors together and it could be that mcconnell may have to step up because that is what you have to do to get some sort of deal at the moment, we have not seen that happen. host: from mark williams, what will be specifically affected in the economy if we go over the cliff? guest: instead of
the fiscal cliff, democrats and republicans have left the capitol for their respective homes. for the majority of the country, that means we are essentially going over the cliff. president obama is in hawaii for christmas with his family b. before he left, he urged congress to adopt a stopgap measure to prevent taxes from rising on people who make less than $250,000 a year. he also asked for a plan to keep providing benefits to unemployed workers. house speaker john boehner is home in cincinnati. he failed to get members of his own party to support his plan b proposal to end the crisis. he said the stalemate and failure of plan b rests with the democrats. >> what the president has offered so far simply won't do anything to solve our spending problems and begin to address our nation's crippling debt. instead he wants more spending and more tax hikes that will hurt our economy. and he refuses to challenge the members of his matter to deal honestly with the entitlement reform and the big issues that are facing our nation. that's why we find ourselves here today. >> president oba
if we do go over the fiscal cliff. palin a nurses' strike thousands of nurses walked off the job today at nine bay area hospitals. nurses with a center helps halt the bay summit medical center are asking for a negotiated labor contracts and improvement in patient care protections. such as staffing levels, a health benefits, and sick days. strikers a hospital officials want to reduce the number of paid sick days for nurses and technicians while maintaining health care coverage for those who work fewer than 30 hours a week. >> we're looking at power outages this morning all across the bay area. here's a look at the numbers. in the north bay 1075 people are without power. on the peninsula, 517. central coast, 376. and in the east bay 288 customers are without power. taking a live look as we're seeing the traffic in san jose as traffic said is very light right now. it will be tough to get around the malls though today. we will be right back. sleep train thanks all those who helped make a difference last year for thousands of california foster kids. thank you for helping foster kids. thank
the fiscal cliff, we're going to have a pretty good year in 2013. people are saying, you know, big companies are in good shape. we're just kind of waiting for this economy to pick up steam. the housing markets is now -- has now turned around. consumers have paid down debt. there are a lot of things that are sort of going the right way, except for one thing. we need washington to solve this problem. >> again, it's not going to be a big deal within the time that's gin left. what can americans expect come payday in the new year? the affect that's going to be in their paycheck for tax reasons. >> we all know if there's not -- sthe they could come up with a short-term deal that really just pushes the whole thing off. it says this deadline is -- we're going to change the deadline. they can do that. i mean, whether they're going to do that or not, nobody is quite sure, but it does sound like the door is open for congress to come back in. it may not hit on january 1st the way people think, but this whole thing could unravel, you know, and this could be a temporary tax hike, and then we have to figur
is asking santa for a fiscal cliff feel. both sides come back to work on thursday. peter barnes is in washington. how likely that we get a deal done? peter: the speaker and the president have not spoken since friday. right now, all eyes are on the senate. the president proposed a limited patch that would a void the cliff after speaker boehner scuffled his plan be. staff discussions continue between the administration and the hill. we have not heard of any breakthroughs at this point. democrats extended tax breaks for families taking under $250,000. that would cost $157. it also approved taxing $92 billion. mitch mcconnell is critical to hammer out a deal in the senate because he can filibuster anything. his spokesman said "nothing new to report. we do not know yet what senator reed plans to bring to the senate for a vote." >> if you want leaders, then, you have to lead. the president has been a pathetic leader. i would vote for revenues, including tax rate hikes even though i do not like them to save the country from becoming greece. i will not set aside the $1.2 trillion in cut
slide toward the fiscal cliff. we'll ask our sunday panel about the president's latest plan to take some of the pain out of going over the brink. will the gop sign on? sometimes life can be well, a little uncomfortable. but when it's hard or hurts to go to the bathroom, there's dulcolax stool softener. dulcolax stool softener doesn't make you go, it just makes it easier to go. dulcolax stool softener. make yourself comfortable. >> chris: call me a hopeless optimist but i actually still think we can get it done. >> how we get there, god only knows. >> chris: the president and speaker boehner still looking for some way to cushion the blow of going over the fiscal cliff. time for our sunday group. bill kristol of the weekly standard. kirsten powers. laura ingraham and fox news political analyst juan williams. >> this week one gave me a new way to think of the way we are accumulating the huge national debt. it is interesting. under president obama the debt increased $5.7 trillion. the estimated cost of recovery from hurricane are sandy is $50 billion. so the rate at which our debt is increas
as we get it. >>> increased fears this morning about running off the fiscal cliff. the deadline for preventing tax hikes is one week today. it is likely that the president and congress will work right to new year's ever. >>> overseas now, where an american has been killed by an afghan policewoman. there have been similar insider attacks, but this is the first time a female security officer has been involved. >>> the nra is not backing away from the call for armed officers in schools. congressman chris murphy, whose district includes newtown calls the stance tone deaf and revolting. >>> a rel christmas gift, getting to where you're going on time today. storms are causing major trouble. not only trying to get through snow-covered roads. rain and wind are grounding flights in warmer parts of the country as well. >>> finally, christmas a good time to do star-gazing. jupiter and the moon will be close together in the sky and very bright. you'll be able to see them even in urban areas. the star of bethlehem may have been a similar astronomical event. you have to look to the east south
one week left before the country goes over the fiscal cliff. your taxes will soar if congress and the president can't reach a deal. so steve is live for us in washington with the very latest. all right, good morning to you, steve. >> good morning, gretchen. yeah, the house as you know, tried and failed to pass some kind of a compromise on that fiscal cliff. now the spotlight falls on the u.s. senate. some kind of deal could have a better chance there because the senate is not as bitterly divided as the house. success depends partly on whether mitch mcconnell decides to filibuster any legislation. there is senate republicans who are willing to compromise in order to avoid the fiscal cliff. including kay bailey hutchison of texas and johnny isakson of georgia. >> time is running out. and the truth of the matter is, if we do fall off the cliff after the president's maturitied, he'll come back, propose just what he proposed yesterday in leaving washington and we'll end up adopting it. why should we put the markets mn such turmoil and the people in misunderstanding or lack of confi
$250,000. >> you're right. we're talking about three things when we talk about the fiscal cliff. one is the bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 that the democrats claim they want to protect for most americans. they all voted against them. they didn't want them in the first place, but now they recognize how terribly important they are, they claim. for two full years, all of 2009 and all of 2010, obama was president. you had a super majority of democrats in the house and the senate. they could have passed making permanent those tax cuts for l all, some americans, people making less than $250,000 a year, they could have done that. they didn't. why do you believe the democrats really want to do something they no longer have the votes to do when they could have done it when they had the votes. that's one part of the fiscal cliff. the other part is the sequester, which saves money. the president wants to end that. and the third part is $1 trillion in obama's taxes. that's the obama care taxes they hid from you because they're all scheduled to come in after he got safely elected. >> let's go b
about running off the fiscal cliff. the deadline for preventing tax hikes and government spending cuts is just one week from today. the president and congress return to washington later this week. it's likely they'll work right to new year's eve. one possibility is striking a deal on taxes but leaving the spending for later. >>> overseas now, where an american has been killed by an afghan policewoman. the attack took place at police head quarters in kabul. where there have been similar insider attacks, this is the first time a female security officer has been involved. >>> the nra is not backing away from its call for armed officers in our nation's schools. and the group vows to fight any effort by congress to strengthen gun control laws. now congressman chris murphy, whose district includes newtown, calls the stance "tone deaf and revolting." >>> a real christmas gift, it would be getting to where you're going on time today. storms are causing major travel trouble throughout the nation. it's not only trying to get through snow-covered roads. rain and wind are grounding flights in the
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